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Jesus points out also that those who draw back are the ones who really do not believe. I had a phone call once from a young man, a relatively new Christian who said to me, "I can't make it. He knew from the beginning who it was that would not believe and who it was that would betray him, thus he says, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father." ", 70Then Jesus replied, "Have I not chosen you, the Twelve? You embarrass us. Website © 2020 by Ray Stedman Ministries. 67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? That is a picture of the natural man, the man of the flesh, depending on his own wisdom to get things going, kindling fires and lighting brands everywhere by his own natural energy. For you alone have words of eternal life.1. Peter is saying, "We have watched you, and we have come to see that there is nothing wrong in you. Your words, O Lord, are … to whom. I want to say that is not necessarily a totally hopeless situation. The words that I speak to you, these are spirit and life." Trust each other. “Master, to whom shall we go? Subject to permissions policy, all rights reserved. All rights reserved. 69We believe and know that you are the Holy One of God. You are the one who sustains us in God’s love. They're quality, not quantity." I'm going to hang it up." Amen. He was so much to them. All authority, traditional and made up, is too often considered “equal”. They cannot imagine that any one should be to them what already Jesus had been. "Secondly, Lord, we have seen your character." For permission to use this content, please review O, Lord, such disconcerting thoughts! So God says, Walk by the light of your fire,     and by the brands which you have kindled! Notice the marks of these who drop out from the Christian cause: First, it is clear that they take offense at difficult truth: "Many of his disciples, when they heard it, said, 'This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?' All rights reserved. It's too hard. For Jesus knew from the first who those were that did not believe, and who it was that should betray him. (John 6:67-69 RSV). 69 And we believe … In Chapter 4, when Jesus said to the woman at the well, "If you knew who it is that is speaking to you, you would ask of me and I would give you water that would spring up unto eternal life," she thought he was talking about plumbing. Jesus knew of the weaknesses in Judas' life, his character failings, etc., and he prayed over him and yet chose him. There are those who will not stay with Jesus all the way. Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? But it’s more than a bit disturbing that Qanon and conspiracies like it are spreading in churches. This is very relevant for some of you. This is the problem that Jesus is talking about here: "You do not allow yourself to be drawn along of the Father into more and more truth until you come to the fullness of life." God's teaching is always to open our eyes to truth. Are you repulsed by that? I don't always understand, I can't always figure you out, I don't always like what you do, but Lord, to whom can I go?" We, too, Lord, fall into one of these three groups. You have the words of eternal life. Read that way it sounds as though Jesus means, "Are you offended by what I said about eating flesh and drinking blood? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. If you have found Jesus to be like that, where else can you go? This is the terror that I referred to. John 6:68, ESV: "Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? (There were a lot of marriages in Israel that year apparently.) Only Jesus. You are only out for yourself. ( Log Out /  That is the word he chose: a "devil" -- always resistant, always opposed, always out for himself, never in line with what Jesus wanted. Keep me today from anything that may tax my faith. He’s speaking words of “Spirit and life” which bring into being precisely what they signal. We have investigated the alternatives. What you say to us has met our deepest need, has delivered us from our sins and freed us from our fears. I have often said that the best definition of a Christian is 'someone who cannot quit.' He never was. Some churches, looking for quantity rather than quality, will do almost anything to increase their attendance. (Isaiah 50:11b RSV). 63The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” John 6:66-69 Refrain Lord, to whom shall we go? There are many missing faces. 68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? That is what Jesus fulfilled when he came: He had learned how to speak to the weary, and his words give life. We have come to that point in John's gospel where many of Jesus' disciples drew back and no longer followed him. But if your heart is like that of Judas, centered in yourself, all you can hear, I am afraid, is the word of Jesus: "There is one who shall betray me.". Do not ever forget that: God can give power to do miracles even to those who are not his, if he so chooses. Notice that he says, "We." Everybody wanted to see him make a fool of himself that way, so they scrounged the neighborhood and brought in every and any warm body they could find. Simon Peter answered Him, ‘Lord, to whom shall we go? 62What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! Yes. You have the words of eternal life, You have drawn us and compelled us. they ask. You can't quit. They had gone as far as they would go. Lord, to whom shall we go?1. Many people start out the Christian life and seem to do very well for awhile, but then they drop out of sight and nobody seems to know what happened to them. Jesus said to the twelve, "Will you also go away?" Our Lord once put it this way, "To him that has shall more be given, but to him that has not, even that which he has shall be taken away," (Mark 4:25, Luke 19:26). You have the words of eternal life. in Music and a B.A. But John hastens to explain that Jesus was speaking of the temple of his body, which was symbolized by the building. But there are some of you that do not believe." An ELCA Pastor's reflections on life and the church, Because of this [teaching] many of [Jesus’s] disciples turned back and no longer went about with him. On one occasion he sent the twelve out before him into the cities of Galilee and gave them power to cast out devils, to heal the sick, and power even to raise the dead. To whom shall we go? “Lord, to whom shall we go?” (John 6:68) Jesus is too much for some people. They drop out, at least for awhile. Many churches are even now setting goals for growth in 1984, usually in specific terms of percentage of increase, or even an arbitrary number, arrived at out of the blue, that they are aiming to achieve. Permissions beyond the scope of this license may be available here. But many people do not want to be bothered with searching out anything that is difficult. You have the words of eternal life; and we have believed, and have come to know, that you are the Holy One of God." thou hast the words of eternal life. But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples murmured at it, said to them, "Do you take offense at this? You have the words of eternal life. They sound easy enough to offer to God, but what about the story behind those words? This is what Peter is saying to Jesus. Peter then asks a question and makes a statement that is the basis for of this message. Some of you have started well, but you will drop out. When Jesus talked about flesh and blood they took him literally -- they imagined he was advocating a kind of cannibalistic practice -- but he was actually saying to them, "No, if you would continue to the end and saw me ascending into the heavens, thus removing my body from the earth, you would understand that I am not talking about flesh and bones, meat and blood, but rather I am talking about what those things symbolize, that 'it is the spirit that gives life, and the flesh is of no avail.' Bread of Life, manna in the desert, Saving Cup, promise from above. Born and raised in Chicago, IL, he graduated from Capital University with a B.A. What does it mean to come to Jesus? Jesus concluded his great message on the bread of life in the synagogue at Capernaum on a very offensive note, talking about "eating his flesh" and "drinking his blood." I do not fully understand it either, but I believe it, and I understand there is a deep and marvelous truth about it that is very real and very rich. Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life." John 6:68 Context. Out of the hundreds who were following him he prayed to select, by the Father's wisdom, the ones who would be closest to him, the ones whom he would give himself to, to train and develop for the work which would reach around the world and through the ages. Enter your email address below and click "Sign me up!" Many struggle over the letters of Paul. That passage in Isaiah closes with a remarkable verse. You frighten us. Secondly, Jesus gave power to Judas. Learn how your comment data is processed. Notice how Peter puts it: "We have believed, and have come to know." This is the kind of reckoning we have that comes at rare and memorable moments in life, when we're faced with a depth of struggle and suddenly have a glimmer of truth -- how we really feel about something or someone, what the truth is for us. Then what if you were to see the Son of man ascending where he was before? Lamb of God, humble and obedient, Sacrifice, ransom for our sin Then God said, "I can work with that many. As exemplified by the very first church in Jerusalem - Ac 2:42 -- The words of the apostles preserved in their writings, can lead us to Him who alone has the words of eternal life! It was the will of the Father that one among the apostolic band should betray him. Hebrews 11:6 says, "He who comes to God must believe that he is and that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him." We do not even want to be those who follow from afar, uncertain and uncomfortable. 68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? Many churches focus on those things as though that was what God desires. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life. You will go on and do the wrong thing, deliberately, again and again, and eventually you will drop out. You have the words of eternal life. 1 Who Could the Disciples Go To? Following ourselves only leads us in a circle, or a spiral toward death. And now the Qanon conspiracy, which has been growing for almost three years, is reaching that level. Keep me from worrying about such things. When Gideon sent out word summoning the men of Israel to battle and thirty-two thousand of them showed up (a fairly sizable army for that day), God told him, "That's too many; I can't work with that many" (Judges 7:1-8), and directed him to send home all the newly married and the cowards. “To whom shall we go Lord, Thou hast the words of eternal life.” Peter was right when he said simply, “We believe and we are sure that Thou art the holy one of … Through reading the Bible together with a group? You have found too much, you have learned too much of life. There are your words. Others struggle over the doctrine of God's providential sending of difficult things, hardships, disasters, and so on. Think critically with each other. “Lord, to whom shall we go? ( Log Out /  At the Mt. That flies right in the face of the hyper-individualism that more and more undergirds our culture. You cannot quit. How can God draw us and yet give us free will? Yet one of you is a devil!" You have the words of eternal life. Many of his disciples, when they heard it, said, "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?" That kind of thing, of course, is far removed from what the Bible teaches. Lord, to whom, &c.--that is, "We cannot deny that we have been staggered as well as they, and seeing so many go away who, as we thought, might have been retained by teaching a little less hard to take in, our own endurance has been severely tried, nor have we been able to stop short of the question, Shall we follow the rest, and give it up? About the future, and the darkening trend of things, Keep me from thoughtfulness. Remember that earlier he had spoken of being drawn of the Father, which he interprets as being "taught of God." Unfortunately, it is the translation that makes it sound that way. She said to him, "Give me this water so I don't have to come here anymore to draw," (John 4:10-15). Here is a wonderful statement of what these disciples were seeing in Jesus: In Christ we have a love that can never be fathomed; a life that can never die; a righteousness that can never be tarnished; a peace that can never be understood; a rest that can never be disturbed; a joy that can never be diminished; a hope that can never be disappointed; a glory that can never be clouded; a light that can never be darkened; a happiness that can never be interrupted; a strength that can never be enfeebled; a purity that can never be defiled; a beauty that can never be marred; a wisdom that can never be baffled; and resources that can never be exhausted. And let me not be troubled by qualms of conscience. I have discovered that this is frequently true of those who drop out of church: they are bothered when difficult doctrines are taught. Grant that nothing may occur which will disturb My satisfaction with the way I am, the things I say, The thoughts I think, the acts I do. However you can feel him. (John 6:70-71 RSV). But there are some of you who will never leave. They explain us and they explain life to us. Amen. You can never give him up. You will not want to be bothered with studying and searching and understanding. We are not the Holy One of God, instead the servants and workers. If we read it that way, however, we have not understood at all what Jesus is saying. You want to use God. And guide me safely to an from My office, and my home. Some conspiracy theories occasionally rise to a dangerous level of acceptance: Pizzagate, anti-vaccination, anti-Semitism, COVID-19 theories, etc. Three remarkable things are said here about Judas: First, Jesus admits that he chose him as he did the others. This is a turning point in our Lord's ministry, where he confronts the twelve with the question, \"Will you also go away?\" This is a frequent phenomenon in our day also. “And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God” ( John 6:68–69 ). The obvious answer would be Christ Jesus, the Son of God. This is a frequent phenomenon in our day also. Qanon is becoming an “alternative religion”, says this Religion News Service article. The Lord asks, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?”—He wants willing volunteers in His service—and a grateful and enthusiastic Isaiah doesn’t hesitate in taking the opportunity: “Here am I; send me.” And for the rest of his life, Isaiah serves the God who had forgiven and saved him. Judas Iscariot: outwardly a disciple, outwardly a lover of Jesus (remember he betrayed him with a kiss in the garden of Gethsemane), yet inwardly a traitor, an enemy, a devil opposed to all that God wants. 67 Jesus then said to the Twelve, “Do you also want to leave?” 68 Simon Peter answered him, “Master, to whom shall we go? Maybe not surprising, but certainly disturbing. That is the heart that he is looking for. Judas stayed with the group; he lived with them, ate and slept with them, and yet was not one of them. It is a prayer, but it is a self-centered prayer, the kind that would be prayed by a contemporary Judas: O thou pleasant, comfortable, kindly, good-natured God, With a reasonable degree of certainty To another ordinary day. Nicodemus was thinking of gynecology, but Jesus was talking about eternal life, the gift of life imparted, which physical birth symbolizes. In Chapter 2, he said to the Jews, "Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up again," (John 2:19). "…To whom shall we go? Jesus corrects that, saying, "No, Peter, that is wrong. Some feel uneasy about the doctrine of election. The centurion like so many since, so many still, know that the power is in God. 67"You do not want to leave too, do you?" Thousands of churches across our country today are almost empty because people who used to go to church no longer do. Many people start out the Christian life and seem to do very well for awhile, but then they drop out of sight and nobody seems to know what happened to them. Let my conformity to this world's ways Be limited, O God, to things which, While some may question them, Will not, I pray, be positive sin. This is how we should read this. You alone have the words of lasting life. Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? I testify to you that Joseph Smith saw the Father and the Son. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. 65He went on to say, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him.". You have the words of eternal life." you have the words of eternal life. Then Jesus said to the twelve, “Do you also want to go away?” But Simon Peter answered Him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? At any rate twenty-two thousand of them went home. It means to simply believe what God has said concerning His Son, and receive Him as your personal Savior. The sixth chapter of Luke records the story of Jesus praying all night long before he chose his disciples. When the Sunday School number reached one thousand, the pastor fulfilled his word and preached from the belfry. (Isaiah 50:11a RSV). I said, "I know it. Then there are those who cannot leave, no matter what happens. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Well, that is nothing to the offense you are going to feel when you see me ascending into the heavens." Of all the traitorous names of history, Benedict Arnold, Quisling, etc., Judas heads the list. 69 We have come to believe and are convinced that you are the Holy One of God.” d 70 Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you twelve? Faith is a personal response to a continuing invitation to live in an intimate relationship with Christ, answering the question of the human heart “to whom shall we go.” It is a relationship of joy, of life-meaning, of strength, and of consolation, and it is also a relationship of the sometimes challenging moral imperatives entailed in a life of discipleship. You want to appear to be a Christian, but you are not. I think you're right. This question and answer is probably a variant of the more frequently quoted confession of Peter as recorded in the synoptics, given in answer to the question, “Whom do you say that I am?” Instead, that preacher will be accused of being “too political” because the liberating message of the Gospel is at odds with the worldview that espouses such actions as legitimate (yes, all of those are Qanon actions). Hang it up." It has happened before. We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.” John 6: 68-69 Amen. This passage from the sixth chapter of John's gospel is very revealing as to why this phenomenon occurs. it is clear that he would have let them go if they had wanted to. Of course you can't. You're not easy to live with. “To whom shall we go?” has an answer and that is Jesus. in Religion; and from Trinity Lutheran Seminary with his M.Div. We want to be our own bosses. From discomfort, from unnecessary strain, from unusual problems, Especially those involving sickness or death, Or the necessity of extending financial aid to relatives or friends, Dear Lord, deliver me. Many people say, "I don't understand the Trinity. Jesus says in verse 67, “Do you want to go away as well?” And Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go?” In that simple question, Peter is saying, We’ve considered it. Forgive me, in advance, if I embarrass Thee By failing to identify myself as one Who seeks to honor Thee in all my ways. ", 61Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, "Does this offend you? Message transcript and recording © 1984 by Ray Stedman Ministries, owner of sole copyright by assignment from the author. Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? That is how our Lord works here in Capernaum, too. But Jesus went on to make clear to her that he was talking about the gift of life. " By that they implied they were not going to pay any attention to it; they did not want to be troubled with difficult teaching. If you have to say, "I belong to the first group, I'm afraid," there is still hope. It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. That is what Jesus is saying: "My words are spirit and life." Nobody could replace Jesus as the disciples’ Master. If you become bothered by difficult doctrines, sooner or later you will almost certainly drop out of the Christian cause. I didn’t give it much thought. They say, "They are too hard to understand. The divine viewpoint on life: That is the real truth; and that is what we ought to be concerned about getting -- feeding upon the promises and observing the warnings of Scripture. 68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? But how? We have come to that point in John's gospel where many of Jesus' disciples drew back and no longer followed him. This is a turning point in our Lord's ministry, where he confronts the twelve with the question, "Will you also go away?" As a pastor myself, I’m quite glad those days are behind us. I blow it all the time. Listen to each other. This begs the question: for Christians, to whom do we look for authority? There are many such prayers prayed today, I am afraid. “And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God” (John 6:68–69). Finally, there is one who has never really come but he will not leave and that is the problem. Hermon, where Peter confessed that Jesus was the Christ. Your words, Lord, are the most remarkable words we have ever heard. When people obey the truth they see, then they will be taught more truth, but Scripture warns that if they resist the truth, then they lose the capacity to see and to hear anymore. We are not the Holy One of God, instead the servants and workers. Quantity does not interest him; it is quality that makes the difference. 66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Scripture quotations from the World English Bible. Unless God smooths their pathway they do not want anything to do with him. He knows. It is not always religious truth, it is any kind of truth, for all truth is from God. This incident probably corresponds with the event recorded in the other gospels that took place at Caesarea Philippi, at the foot of Mt. John 6:68, NIV: "Simon Peter answered him, 'Lord, to whom shall we go? We don’t want to be responsible for anyone but ourselves (“Am I my brother’s keeper?” a human once asked). Take the doctrine of the Trinity, for instance. I do not understand the connection exactly, but evidently there was some connection. You fit the prophecies; you fulfill the predictions. We ask in Jesus' name. Our Lord also gave Judas the trusted position of treasurer within the apostolic band. Through reading the Bible alone? 'To whom shall we go?' Change ). Jesus asked the Twelve. Those who focus solely on the symbols of Christianity invariably drop out sooner or later. Who can accept it? Challenge each other. He sent them down to the brook and tested them there, until finally only three hundred were left. … And because the authority of the preacher to name sin for what it is has eroded, the Gospel message is deemed less true and less important than the conspiracy. Verse 2 O Lord, you feed us with the finest of wheat, our pledge of eternal life. And he said, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father." You can start right now to obey what he tells you to do. The twelve came back (Judas was one of them), reporting that they had done all these things. He’s a die-hard Chicago Blackhawks fan, a self-proclaimed nerd and geek, gamer, and liberation theologian. God is not interested in mere numbers -- he proves that over and over. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. This is the testimony of those who walk with him and follow him. We have come to believe that you are the Holy One of God.”. Give me this day, in addition to my daily bread, The butter, meats, and sweetmeats That are my necessary diet. Display Title: Lord, to Whom Shall We Go First Line: Lord, to whom shall we go? There is one here who does not fit." 64Yet there are some of you who do not believe." And who will go for us?” And I said, “Here am I. We don’t get a choice in this — we belong to God alone. Thus we read, "After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him." At one time, the word of the pastor was akin to the Word of God themself. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. You have the words of eternal life and we have believed and have come to know that You are the Holy One of God.’ Jesus answered them, ‘Did I not choose you, the twelve, and yet one of you is a devil.’ Let’s try to find an answer to the question Peter asked for it is of great importance we … We see and hear you do things that simply blow our minds. They know their own failures, their own weaknesses. Speaking through the prophet, God contrasts the word that the Messiah will speak with the words that men speak to each other: Behold, all you who kindle a fire,     who set brands alight! Who can you go to? We are not the Living Word, the words of eternal life. Responding to our Lord's words, Peter says three wonderful things: First, he says, in effect, "Lord, we have been thinking about it. I can't get back into my mother's womb," (John 3:3-4). Thus when he speaks here of "eating flesh" and "drinking blood," he is not talking about cannibalism, but about inner food, that which you live on, the philosophy of life that is real and meaningful. As his story develops, it is clear that Judas was never really with Jesus, he was always against him. Sometimes the words of Jesus seem too strong, his demands too strict, his sayings too mysterious to understand. He blogs at https://ecumenicallife.com/ . But we can’t have it. I had heard that kind of thing before, so I said to him, "That's a good idea. We’ve allowed ourselves to ponder what it might like to turn away from you. I’d heard about Q and Qanon because of other things happening in the news, but I don’t give much credence to conspiracy theories, as amusing as some of them are (I’m fond of the theories that NASA is hiding the existence of another planet in the solar system, or that the country of Israel regularly uses animals as spies). In v.68-69 Peter asked TO WHOM SHALL WE GO, and makes the statement “You have the words of eternal life. This is the tragedy that befalls many. We are not the Gospel, only its bearers. Peter was not asking Jesus to name someone else for the disciples to follow. 'You are the Holy One of God,' you are the Sinless One. They immediately thought he was talking about the beautiful building that stood on the top of Mt. The words of Jesus are truth about life. “Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will you also go away? We can be inspired by those of strong faith, reassured by examples of belief in times of difficulty. We must view their words as the commandments of the Lord - e.g., 1Co 14:37 3. Notice that there are three groups of disciples in this whole passage. After this many of his disciples draw back and no longer went about with him. Mostly gone (and thank God) are the days when the old white male pastor wielded unilateral authority in the church, dictating everything from the budget to the art decorating the sanctuary to the congregation’s involvement in the neighborhood to the correct interpretation of scripture to membership in the community to what color the carpet should be. Psalm 73:25 Whom have I in heaven but thee? I testify to you that Joseph Smith saw the Father and the Son. Tune Title: TO WHOM SHALL WE GO Meter: 7.9 Scripture: John 6:68; John 6:47; John 6:51; John 8:51; John 11:25-27 Date: 2013 Subject: Jesus Christ | Lamb; Elements of Worship | Hearing the Word We are not the Gospel, only its bearers. Here in this congregation there are probably representatives of these three groups. I want to share with you a prayer, written by a friend of mine, to express the kind of feelings that people like that have. RayStedman.org/permissions. Your words, O Lord, are my light and my hope: your Word is my hope of salvation.3. Or the many deeds I leave undone. "You will lie down in torment" -- frustrated in your ambitions and angry that you cannot make things fit together, tormented and tortured because you cannot make life work. You have the words of eternal life. Jesus said that all along Judas was a "devil." 67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? thou hast the words of eternal life. Many times in the Gospel of John people fail to grasp what Jesus means because they put too much emphasis on the symbols he employs. Does your heart say to him, "Lord, to whom can I go? to have notifications of new posts sent directly to your inbox! Nobody speaks like you do, nobody understands life like you do. "What kind of a God do we have who puts us through this kind of a testing?" 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